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    The Top 20 Albums of All Time (For Real)

    I completely understand the frustration of "best of lists", and I can assure you that I read hundreds of comments here on the Yahoo Music blogs whenever we post one. Many times our "best album" lists generate thousands of comments. And although many of the remarks are ridiculous, many are valid in a subjective sort of way.

    For this playlist I wanted to find the true top 20 albums once and for all, but to do this I needed to clear my mind of all opinion and approach it as a science. My own personal taste did not influence this list in any way. In fact, I would have made many different choices, but the time I put into collecting the data and crunching the numbers leaves no doubt in my mind that this is the most accurate top 20 album list in existence.

    To begin with I had to set the parameters, and I have set them as follows:

    1. The list is based on the American market - I did this only because I had mounds of detailed data on the American music market at hand- to include the whole world or even Europe would increase the complexity of the analysis greatly - So this is really the "Top 20 Albums of All Time (To Americans)"

    2. "Greatest Hits" albums and live albums were not eligible. The idea here was to identify the very best true albums, not compilations that cherry pick the best songs from an artist's career.

    3. The following mathematical formula was used:

    "Album Staying Power Value + Sales Value + Critical Rating Value + Grammy Award Value"

    Now if you wish to argue, I welcome intelligent comment on how to hone the formula further, but please try to control the passionate fan-speak that drives so many of the comments. Remember, the idea is to completely remove your personal opinion from the process.

    To offer a bit more detail on the components of the formula:

    The initial group of albums selected was based solely on sales. Please know that I believe sales alone are probably the worst measure we have of an album's quality and I will speak to how I addressed this problem in a few. But as a starting point sales made the most sense. Sales are by no means the only measure of a "great album", but without big sales an album doesn't have much footing on which to claim the moniker "greatest". A vote with a dollar is a much stronger indicator than any other.

    I looked at the biggest selling albums of all time in America based on actual RIAA data - this produced 71 non-Greatest Hits/Live albums that have all sold over 10 million units. Any of these that sold more than 10 million units received a 1% Sales Multiplier for every 1 million units sold over 10 million.

    Sales Value = Sales Multiplier X Staying Power Value

    Next, I determined what the Staying Power Value (SPV) was of all 71 albums. To determine Staying Power Value I looked at used CD sales data to determine how well each album's value has held up over time. For example, in the secondary market you can expect to pay around $9.50 for a copy of Rumours by Fleetwood Mac, but you would only pay $1.38 for a copy of Cracked Rear View by Hootie and The Blowfish. The Staying Power Value is important because it shows what the current value of the album is in the marketplace. So it's a good reflection of supply and demand. Rumours sold 19 million copies and Cracked Rear View sold 16 million. Rumours gets more points for selling more units, but even more important than the higher overall sales figures is that people want to hold onto their Fleetwood Mac CD, but don't mind parting with their Hootie CD. SPV captures this. In simple terms, Staying Power Value reflects current supply and demand for each album. *Please note that for double albums we reduced the SPV to align with a standard-length album.

    So if we take the previously mentioned SPV of Fleetwood Mac's Rumours album and multiply it by that album's Sales Multiplier of 9% (1% for each million sold over 10 million) we get $10.38. But this only shows us how much people still desire the album + how many have sold at retail.

    The next part of the formula takes into account critical acclaim.

    I would agree with anyone who says a critical review means nothing, but when you start to see a pattern among the critics the data becomes much more reliable. If ten out of ten reviewers give an album 5 stars chances are good that the album is a winner. Basically the more reviews you average the more reliable the rating.

    For the Critical Rating Value I looked at multiple reviews for each album from a diverse cross section of music magazines, newspapers and music review websites to come up with the average review number for each based on a 5 star scale. From these ratings I assigned a Critical Rating Multiplier to each album ranging from 0% to 10%.

    So now our formula has factored in critical acclaim making the end result more reliable.

    Ratings Value = Sales Value X Rating Multiplier

    The final portion of the formula is the Grammy Award Value and it simply looks at how many Grammy Awards each album has won. Our formula already has the voice of the people (Sales Value) and the voice of the critics (Critical Rating Value) so the only missing component is the acclaim each album holds among its peers. The Grammys are an industry specific award and are the best reflection we have of how the music business itself feels about an album. I would agree that this is the least important of the components in our formula, and as such each Grammy award adds only a .5% bonus. So an album that wins 4 Grammys would receive an extra 2% to it's value. This in my estimation is a fair weighting to give for a Grammy award.

    So now I give you The Top 20 Albums of All Time based purely on the analysis provided above and devoid of any personal opinion.

    20. Faith - George Michael

    19. Appetite For Destruction - Guns N' Roses

    18. Purple Rain - Prince

    17. Houses Of The Holy - Led Zeppelin

    16. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen

    15. Nevermind - Nirvana

    14. Van Halen - Van Halen

    13. Rumours - Fleetwood Mac

    12. The Wall - Pink Floyd

    11. The Joshua Tree - U2

    10. Metallica - Metallica

    9. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin

    8. Hotel California - Eagles

    7. The White Album - The Beatles

    6. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin

    5. Abbey Road - The Beatles

    4. Physical Graffiti - Led Zeppelin

    3. Thriller - Michael Jackson

    2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd

    1. Songs In The Key Of Life - Stevie Wonder

     

     
     

    7,623 comments

    • HalfPast  •  1 month 28 days ago
      It was 3 years ago when you did this, sorry I'm a bit late.

      I know you said it would have taken longer, but you have basically just done an American list, it isn't accurate. What about the critically acclaimed albums you started to mention...

      There should be at least 4 Beatles albums, OK Computer by Radiohead should be there, Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys. These albums changed music. They have "critical rating power" if you will.

      And also, you can't decide the greatest 20 albums of all time by sales, you just can't.

      Thank you for sharing this with us, and taking the effort to do a list.
    • Jason  •  6 months ago
      what an idiot. you stupid led zeppelin fan. Gawd, we will never truely know what the greatest album of all time is. I just know that the beatles and elton john are the greatest artist of all time along side john lennon. Maybe you should cnsider an albums impact on society, the artits' impact on society and precious success. not some imaginary, 'staying power.'
    • Tyler  •  8 months ago
      I would love to have seen "The Doors" on there. It may not hold up to the formula used, but as far as influence, quality and innovation goes, only Zeppelin can beat it.
    • angusmacgyver211  •  3 years 7 months ago
      How soon we forget...Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band. & what about "Lennon's" Imagine
    • John E  •  3 years 7 months ago
      People read how he got these albums. He used pure number not personal taste for this. If we were to include (hypothetically) REM, CCR, Aerosmith, Leonard Skynard, and Journey, you would find them far, far, far from the top. I am surprised that Dark Side of the Moon didn't rank higher. I'd figure an album that spent decades (literally) in the top 500 would of ranked higher than it did.
    •  •  3 years 7 months ago
      wow 20% of these albums are Led Zepplin.
    • RACHEL T  •  3 years 7 months ago
      Finally my comments have reached you, Rob. I read your blog and loved it. You finally understand that your blogs should either be based on facts or that you need to post that this is your opinion. Although most did not read the top half of your article regarding how you came to your conclusions on the albums I did and really appreciate that you are listening to some of us. To everyone that is posting he should have put this album or that one on the list read the top of the article so you can understand his conclusion.
    • MIKE_B  •  3 years 7 months ago
      pink floyd SHOULD have been #1... can anybody on this panel name one song from it??????
      I really got to agree with JOHN E with pink floyd's dark side of the moon ..... all kidding aside, I'm surprised michael jacksons thriller wasn't on the list.. I give credit where credits due...
    • Scaryokie  •  3 years 7 months ago
      Led Zeppelin's first lp did not come out in 1971,so much for your "factual" criteria.No Sgt,.Peppers?No Elvis?Petula Clark won best new artist in 1964,the year of the Beatles,so much for "fairness" comparing year to year Grammys.No Stones?No that's just silly!
    • Todd  •  3 years 7 months ago
      uhhh,,WHAM? CMON! they are tha absolute greatest ever! #20 ,,,,please,,and wheres boy george?? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zeppelin RULES
    • citrusmac92  •  3 years 7 months ago
      for the record thriller had 7 grammys not 4 back in 84
    • MJ  •  3 years 7 months ago
      You said you weren't including "europeans" but the beatles are british and u2 is from Ireland....just sayin'
    • Carl  •  3 years 7 months ago
      I personally think this is a great list. Finally, someone who goes by the actual sales and awards for an album, not by their personal taste. To everyone who says that "(enter album name) album should be on this list, this information is not based on anyone's personal taste. It's based on cold hard data, and nothing more.
    • pablo  •  3 years 7 months ago
      no bob dylan, no sgt peppers, no the who, the clash... and there is george michael in the list...this is baddest list i ever read..
    • yoursecretlover  •  3 years 7 months ago
      No doubt...you're an idiot.
    • Sir Richard Danger  •  3 years 7 months ago
      POST YOUR OWN TOP 5 FOLKS, SEE WHAT WE GET......ONLY 5 THOUGH!
    • T  •  3 years 7 months ago
      While I agree that Zepplin was a great band, do people really feel they deserve 4 spots out of 20?!? Formula or no formula that's messed up. And yet Springsteen's Born to Run didn't even make the top 70 something albums of all time...crazy!!
    • BrandonD  •  3 years 7 months ago
      Due to digital downloads I-Tunes etc. makes me wonder if artists/albums from the 2000's are being left out in the cold.
    • Dave  •  3 years 7 months ago
      Who in the world put this list together???
      There are about 100,000+ other great albums that would come before George Michael's Faith or for that matter... ANY GEORGE MICHAEL ALBUM.

      Plus how can you not have AC/DC, The Who or THE KING, Elvis... I sometimes just dont get what other people are thinking.
      It was noce to see GNR - but 19th just before George Michael's FAITH... Give me a break... At least I know better!
    • J CAL  •  3 years 7 months ago
      What about 2 albums that won more then 16 Grqammys and sold millions and where number 1's for months "The Misseducation of Lauryn Hill" & "Supernatural" by Santana